Tuesday 14 February 2017

Ohio Adventures Part 1 - Saddle Seat Lesson!

(These posts are a bit delayed, so in case you missed it, I was in Ohio for work from Jan 21-Feb 4. Most of my trip was work related but I got to meet the one and only Tracy from Fly On Over and squeeze in a few fun horsey activities which will be the subject of these 3 parts)

You might be from a small town if...
...every seat on the plane is both a window and an aisle seat,
...the plane only has 20 people on it including the pilot and co-pilot but it's a full flight,
...the airport you left from only has 1 gate
...they rearrange seating assignments based on weight to balance the plane

When I found out that I was going down to Ohio for work for two weeks, I quickly started looking into riding opportunities for while I was down there. Originally I was hoping to find a high level dressage trainer with an available schoolmaster to take lessons on (which I did eventually arrange but unfortunately the trainer's schedule changed and she ended up being in Florida so she had to cancel).

One of the airports on my travels had these really cool metal horse sculptures

I googled stables in the area and started reading through each website to see if they had lessons, and what discipline. I came across a saddle seat barn and was immediately intrigued. Saddle seat doesn't really exist in Alberta. I had never even seen a saddle seat saddle. To be honest, I've essentially only heard negative things about the sport. However, I didn't want to make false assumptions so I figured I would give it a try and judge it with my own eyes.

The saddle seat barn had a very easy online booking feature on their website. It asked about my riding history so I checked the boxes for hunt seat, dressage and western, and said I have ridden for a lot of years but never tried saddle seat before. I booked a lesson for Saturday morning and got a quick confirmation email from the stables.

When Saturday came, I rented my car and drove East out of Columbus to the Granville Ohio area to get to the barn. The facility was very nice, but I didn't have much chance to take photos. I was met at the door by my instructor for the day, J. J is a guy who seemed to be in his early 20s. I think it's his parents who run the program. He started riding western himself but now competes in saddle seat. Him and his parents breed saddlebred horses. J led me to my lesson horse for the day and asked me a bit about my riding background. It was evident that he mostly teaches beginner lessons, so when he heard that I knew the basics, he went to take the rainbow reins off the lesson bridle and grab a different saddle.

The grounds of the saddle seat barn

Tacking up was interesting. It felt weird for me to not be tacking up myself and mostly just watching J do it. I was pleased to see where the saddle sat on the lesson mare's back. One of the negative things I had heard about saddle seat riding is that it puts the rider on the weak part of the horse's back, on the loins. When I see pictures of saddle seat riders it does look they are sitting really far back. However, the panels of the saddle still lie in the same location that the panels for a dressage or jumping saddle would, between the withers and the last rib. The difference is just in the top of the saddle, where the rider sits. The rider is sitting at the back of the saddle, but thankfully not on the loins.

The saddle seat saddle

The second part of the tack that was interesting was the reins. Apparently, in the saddle seat world, if you don't need coloured parts of the rein to know where to keep your hand, the next step up is double reins. Obviously that is very different from dressage where a double bridle doesn't get used until relatively high levels. Also, while I was given double reins, they weren't attached to a double bridle. Both reins were attached to the same ring of a snaffle bit, but the "curb rein" was threaded through a ring on a breast collar thing, which would give it some downwards leverage. I've never seen this type of set up before, but J made it sound commonplace. While I was riding, I had the lower set of reins a bit loose and never tried to engage it.

J corrected my position and made sure I was looking snobby before snapping the photo at the end of my lesson ;-P
You can also see the breastcollar/martingale thing that the "curb" reins went through

I had a 30 minute lesson. We just did walk and trot, some transitions and some circles. J focused much more on my equitation than the lesson mare's way of going. I appreciated that, because I wanted to get a feel for what a proper saddle seat position felt like, and I always feel bad getting after lesson horses for little things when I know I won't be riding them again. The mare I was riding was a typical lesson horse. She was quite happy to cruise around the arena at the speed you wanted, but she was a little dead to the aids when I tried to push her more into the corner, etc.

My saddlebred lesson horse

I'm not sure how to organize what I learned during the lesson so I'm just going to do a bunch of bullet points:

  • Riding in a saddle seat saddle feels like you're always behind the motion, to start anyways
  • My tendency to tip forward was made even worse in a saddle seat saddle because I felt like I had to lean forward to make up for my butt being so far back
  • Once I actually sat back, I found that yes, it is still possible to ride when you are far back and sitting straight up. This is valuable knowledge to bring back to my dressage saddle - sitting back really won't kill me so I should sit back! 
  • J kept telling me to make sure there was no air between my knee and the saddle, I think this is more obvious with the structure of a saddle seat saddle than a dressage saddle (no blocks), but I learned that I have a really hard time keeping my knee in and my heel down at the same time
  • In saddle seat, when they say "circle", they really mean "square".
  • In saddle seat, when you change direction you are supposed to pivot with your horse's head towards the wall. Technically this should be a turn on the haunches, but apparently even in high levels of competition, it doesn't really matter whether the front feet or the hind feet move, as long as it's a turn towards the wall. This was very strange to me. 
  • Saddle seat is all about showing off the horse's beauty and looking like a very snobby rich person (J's words, not mine)
  • The fact that I knew how to post and knew how to get off the horse by myself made me better than most of J's students (he obviously teaches a lot of beginners).
  • In saddle seat, it's good to make all your turns as square as possible.
  • Most trot is done posting.  

Not horse related, but I thought this was a cool looking tree

The whole experience was over a little too quickly. They are actually in the process of moving stables so the place was pretty quiet. I wish I could have seen some other people riding or experienced a bit more of the feel of the barn, but nothing I could do about that. There's still a whole lot I don't know about the saddle seat world, but what I saw were people who are riders and who care for their horses, it's done in a different saddle but it's not as different as I thought it might be. Overall, it was a fun and enlightening experience and I'm glad I did it! 


  1. This is really cool! I know nothing about saddleseat.

    1. But you live in the South and own a Saddlebred! I thought you'd at least know a little!

  2. How interesting! I've seen some saddle seat-type stuff at Tennessee Walking Horse shows and the local Arabian show, but never tried it out for myself. It sounds very strange!

    1. I don't have any desire to do it with my own horse, but it was a fun thing to try while travelling. I totally want to try even more kinds of riding on future trips now!

  3. It's so great that you got to take advantage of a fun, new opportunity!

  4. So cool!! One of my friends used to be a saddle seat rider (quite competitively actually) and always talks really fondly of it. The discipline is super alien to me tho haha

  5. Saddleseat is so freaking weird. The one time I had a lesson I felt like my knees were fully extended and my hands were up by my ears! Breast collar thing is a running martingale, btw - it's just a little different looking than the ones used in other disciplines. (:

    1. Good to know about the martingale, thanks.

      I definitely was being told to hold my hands higher than I normally would. My stirrups actually felt like a normal dressage length for me so that didn't seem weird, but then again, J let me help decide what hole to put the stirrups on so maybe they weren't real saddle seat length.

    2. At the time, I was only riding hunters, so they felt really, really long to me!

  6. This sounds really cool. It's one of the few equestrian activities I've never tried.